A Comment On Atanu Dey's Ganesha Post

Find the post here.

Well I have been following your blog for years now(probably read 500 posts and your book too) and understand your position on religion pretty well.

It’s something like:

• Monotheism just thinks of everyone else as an infidel to be saved. Hence its obsession with conversion.
• The monotheistic god comes across as a psycho sadistic despot.
• They are close to all reasoning beyond what their books say.
• Hinduism is open and welcoming to all people, a smart guy like carl sagan is also impressed how hindus get the age of universe almost right(or close).

In the end though I will just say that if the british had successfully converted the country to majority christianity things simply would have been better today.

All give and take today, modern christianity today is a far better myth to encourage than 2 million hindu gods or the religion of piece.

• They value education.
• They are mostly highly pacifist.
• They practice live and let live most of the time.
• They speak and understand better english! This alone would have I feel made india somewhat a nation of readers.
• They become true and proper atheists when confronted with some good arguments.

I would also like to bring out a few points on hinduism in general. I recently got done with the amazing book Sapiens - A brief history of humankind by Yuval Noah Harari.

Here’s how he challenges the idea that hinduism is polytheistic. And also explains how christian monotheism incorporated specific gods in the form of saints. Let’s just keep it to hinduism for this post.

In Hindu polytheism, a single principle, Atman, controls the myriad gods and spirits, humankind and the biological and physical world, Atman is the eternal essence or soul of the entire universe, as well as of every individual and every phenomenon.

The fundamental insight of polytheism, which distinguishes it from monotheism, is that the supreme power governing the world is devoid of interests and biases, and therefore it is unconcerned with the mundane desires, cares and worries of humans. It’s pointless to ask this power for victory in war, for health or for rain, because from it all-encompassing vantage point.

Basically the atman simply does not care what happens to homo sapiens.

He compares this with the greek god of fate.

The greeks did not waste any sacrifices on Fate. and Hindus built no temples to Atman.

He further continues.

Most hindus are not sadhus. They are sunk deep in the morass of mundane concerns, where the atman is not much help. For assistance in such matters, hindus approach the gods with their partial powers.

Precisely because their powers are partial rather than all-encompassing, gods such as ganesha, lakshmi etc have interests and biases. Humans can therefore make deals with these partial powers and rely on their help in order to win wars and recuperate from illness.

Which basically comes down to your last line of “That’s why I recommend paying appropriate bribes to him before starting on any endeavor” which sounds “cute” with all with the emoticon and everything.

But there are sad human tragedies behind this.

• A family I know has been welcoming the ganpati for 3 yrs now, and this year a family member has been hit with cancer, they were already struggling with finances, then cancer and then comes gannu. One would think they could connect the dots and see that mr.gannu is not really interested in “removing their obstacles”. Alas, they are still at it. Bankrupt but at it.
• A christian family would have enough sense to just have a few drinks less for christmas but gannu unlike jesus just won’t put up with that. Not inviting him after inviting for 2 yrs means a great misery will befall on you (like cancer?). Is that any different than the monotheistic psycho desert god yahweh?

Look at these wretched people below. No roads, no lights, probably haven’t eaten enough calories (unaffordable for most) for the day but “the remover of obstacles” wants them to dance on the road and block traffic and that they will.

Are you trying to convince people that these idiots are more enlightened than the those eating the flesh and drinking the blood on sunday mornings? How exactly do you come to the conclusion that hinduism has a somewhat higher moral standing that christianity and islam?

On an empirical level they are all just myths but given the fact that humans need myths to get along, I think modern christianity is a much better choice than anything else.

We can further go into how the current hindu psycho PM is using this myth to set his power base. There is hardly anything you can say against him today. His mouthpiece swarajyamag carries articles on how hindi should be revived in tertiary higher education. 

The Cuntsplainer of the left liberal

Watch the video.

The way this woman makes my fucking blood boil. That fucking shrill voice when she goes “so you’re saying white men ..blah. blah..” (at 1:08) and the shaky movement with “you literally did, you literally did” (at 2:05-2:08) she does and the expression on her face with the eyebrows raised and that pause while doing it. JESUS FUCK, this cunt.

Bill brought up ISLAM and Political Correctness along with the topic of white evil men, but we just how they just latch on to the one thing, the one thing on which she’s sure that the majority cultural discourse is on her side, it’s like she’s just focused on winning the argument somehow and not even care about analyzing a point put forth for her. That’s how clouded she is by her man hate.

Notice her hand gesture too, so obvious she’s not even giving an inch of thought to the words which came out of Bill’s mouth and just brushing away and has her anti-white-male response ready already loaded.

And they tell us we’re mansplaining, this fucking cuntsplainer.

Think about how can one have a pre-canned responsed loaded when you are put forth an unexpected question, don’t we all take a pause, to think, to reflect and then talk slowly enunciating our words and so on, but not this one. Because she’s so fucking sure that everybody is going to agree with anything she says against white man, again comes back to her belief of having won the cultural war.

She’s the absolute fucking worst of the liberal left, the fucking poision which ends civilizations because cunts like her just can’t, just fucking refuse to sit and take a deep breath and discuss and analyze a point with you, and instead just fucking wait, they wait for you to say a word or a sentence which they disagree with and which they think are certain that the current culture discourse disagrees with.

I say the “current culture disagrees with” because MAKE NO FUCKING MISTAKE, the left-liberal-feminist-PC-SJW shits really fucking thought all along they have won the cultural war, and that folks, that’s what gives her the confidence to so openly bash white men with such fucking smugness of her eyebrows raised, fucking man hating whore this one.

You can go back and watch the video again, see how she expects, just expects everyone to juuusst agree with her, and her tone and expression is one of “c’mon we all know white men are such shits, what’s there to discuss or analyze here”. It’s that expression and her deep belief which really makes me breathe such fire towards her and her kind.

Notice Bill’s initial reaction. I think inside he was just going “YOU DUMB FUCKING WHORE FUCK YOU LIBERALS, I AM GOING OVER TO THE TRUMP SIDE, FUCKING FAGS ALL OF YOU”.

And I’m also sad that the culture is come to this. I am not even a white male but a guy from India and I see this very same man hate being imported here as well. We now have people among us, both men and women who hate the very idea of heterosexual masculinity so much that they don’t even bother to hide how blindly hateful they are just because they think there are so many of them.

This cultural hate affects our lives in so many ways. I for one can’t imagine raising kids in this culture, for one what kind of woman would you choose to be with when the most educated of them have such worldviews. Imagine your son being taught since day one at school how horrible he is just for being him.

For now the tide seems to be changing with India’s election which brought Modi to power, then BREXIT and most importantly, Americans took back their country with TRUMP.

We can’t rest though. Reminds me of Will Durant quotes on India’s fall to invaders:

“The Hindus had allowed their strength to be wasted in internal division and war; they had adopted religions like Buddhism and Jainism, which unnerved them for the tasks of life; they had failed to organize their forces for the protection of their frontiers and their capitals, their wealth and their freedom, from the hordes of Scythians, Huns, Afghans and Turks hovering about India’s boundaries and waiting for national weakness to let them in. For four hundred years (600-1000 A.D.) India invited conquest; and at last it came. This is the secret of the political history of modern India. Weakened by division, it succumbed to invaders; impoverished by invaders, it lost all power of resistance, and took refuge in supernatural consolations; it argued that both mastery and slavery were superficial delusions, and concluded that freedom of the body or the nation was hardly worth defending in so brief a life. The bitter lesson that may be drawn from this tragedy is that eternal vigilance is the price of civilization. A nation must love peace, but keep its powder dry.”

“…the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without and multiplying from within.”

The liberals have serious guilt and contempt for the achivements be it of their own race, the male gender and at times as I have learned from PETA activists their own species. They have a guilt that they probably don’t deserve all the good they have and feel that the only way to redeem themselves is by sharing what they have with those who have always been victims in their narrative.

To meet this deep psychological need they will even hand over their countries to third world islamic savages to rape and kill. And that would be the end in which we all would be equals—in our collective misery.

Civilization is a precious good, eternal vigilance is the price of civilization.

Social Media — This Civilization's Pulse

Social media is a nice window into people’s heads now. And by extension inside the current culture. Then there’s phenomena like selfies and just when I thought it can’t get any fucking worse the following kind came up;

So you’re sitting there at the restaurant table with minimum two other people, going over the menu to order drinks and you take out your phone and do this. It’s so much more depressing when I go ahead breaking down the steps you took. .fuck, let’s get it out of the way:

1. The thought pops in your head that you should share. this. to. facebook. cringessst moment?
2. You take out the phone and go to the app.
3. Type out the place's name, select it from the dropdown then choose the correct location.
4. Tag all those with you, for which you again have to type.
5. You have to use a touch screen for all the typing.

Damn, why? How come you’re not sharing a memory from your childhood or discussing Elon musk with those present with you? There are two other human beings sitting with you doesn’t that mean anything now? The more I think about step 1 here, the most I seem to lose faith in humanity and the fact that it just doesn’t pass but you have to follow it through till step 5, fuck that 2-5 is work to me. What is the motivation?

. . if you’re doing this when you are just with one person, there’s got to be special place in hell for you.

Moving on SM also gives you a glimpse of how and what people think and believe, something which you would have only found out about a person through a close relationship is now a page refresh away. Not anything exactly bad here though. Just depresses you and makes you realize most people just don't think in the right direction and hence human progress is so slow. I’m not finding a way to put the phenomena in words by itself I think it’s best understood by some examples I have collected.

This tweet for me embodies everything that’s wrong with the world and probably always has been.

I can almost hear her internal monologue when she was typing this out; “huh, writing is a means for change, it’s something so deep and meaningful and should serve a higher purpose and bring about a change in the world and Tim chooses to exchange it for for money, money which he will use to buy shampoo and toilet paper with and meet his bare materialistic needs with. Someone tell him pen is mightier than the sword already. .wtf! ridic!”.

Anything done for money is inherently morally inferior to this breed of people. The hatred I think is not towards the money, it’s the act of making money. The act being work. In such people's mind the idea of work has been associated with a form of slavery for so long now that work has to be form of a sisyphean task, something which the doer grudges and hates and finds no value in but only does it out of necessity to fill his stomach and have clothes on his body.

And writing, writing is not that grudging task which one hates. Writing is one’s deepest expressions put into words and he decides to make it dirty by making money from it!

For centuries now wealth has only gone to two categories of people, the looters and the moochers — the ones who take what they want at gunpoint and the others with tears. Doesn’t help that humanity also had a period of slave owning during which the wealthy got wealthier because they owned the workers, never had to pay them and today people project that on anybody (and on themselves) who gets up in the morning to head to a cubicle as fast as he can just to not displease the boss — the slave and the master.

And so we have a world in which for most people work is drudgery and making money a necessary evil. The two are then reconciled as work = slavery = which no one obviously likes and money = necessary evil to earn which you must go through the motions of work. And if one is using writing to make money then we have the equation where writing = work which is equal to drudgery which the above tweet can’t fathom to accept because writing is suppose to be this rainbow of colors of emotions, feelings and other liberal adjectives, a higher purpose and all the romanticism attached to it. Because the culture believes writing is a born talent and an artist just is but can’t become.

Put these beliefs together and you have the soul of a liberal.

The hovering hand

This pic is proof that feminism has come a long way.

Or I should rather say it has lost its way and is now a bulldozer driven by the most vilest of women and men. They along with their comrades are set to destroy the western civilization, a lot of it if not everything. The champions of women’s rights and empowerment have nothing to say about those who treat women like dogs but are busy deciding who should change the diapers and do the dishes and how men who are trying to teach grown up nerds to fight anxiety and talk to women should be banned from entering countries, and the governments of those countries oblige. Recently they had a problem with men having a casual meet up but they’re look the other way when their partners in victimhood go out raping women in the streets.

Their biggest victory is probably how they seem to have convinced a lot of men and women that women are morally superior and inherently better than man. A very powerful narrative to accomplish this has been how all the wars humanity fought for so long were basically outcomes of male aggression and drive for violence and rapes of course. The wars caused by the ignorance of medieval ages, the poverty of its philosophy and culture was all summed up as “men are just violent, raging, raping monsters”. And today they’re teaching young 9 year old boys how their gender has always been and continues to be a big problem.

They ignore how the male drive fueled by testosterone connected continents by railway lines, sent rockets to space and built the brooklyn bridge. To that they counter that women were simply oppressed and hence couldn’t get much done. Which is an amazing claim when you take into account that even in the last decade women have not made as much impact with all the empowerment in the world and that in the the first world. The culture of keeping women and children safe back home while men fought the barbarians at the city gates, they termed it oppression. The idea of keeping women at home to look after the house and children in a world in which their lower upper body strength would not have added much to the workforce and the technology to do anything more was simply absent they termed patriarchy.

And male sexuality took the biggest hit. The ten times greater amounts of testosterone coursing through our veins which makes us stronger, ambitious, aggressive and competitive also makes us incredibly horny and that became a trademark sign of a rapist. As a result of which, Elon Musk is somehow responsible for a rape committed by some village bum in Uttar Pradesh, India because they both have the same testosterone based drive.

The culmination of all this is the gender which created the human civilization and maintains it, is now forever psychologically crippled with being labelled a violent rapist while he accidentally brushes against a woman’s ass in a crowded bus, a harasser if he dares say “hi” to a cute girl walking by in a mall and an outright desperate creep if he completely places his palm on the small of a woman’s back during waltz and must spend every minute of his life proving otherwise.

The modern motivation

In the early 2000s do you remember ever seeing a guy with a big sign with something like the following walking around andheri station or on the platform? I sure don’t. Wonder what were the spartans doing to let everyone know that they just started climbing mountains as part of their combat training.

I give it to you that this is sort of grey area, I don’t want to make it sound like people are going to the restaurants and pubs just so they can put it up on facebook or that they’re going for those cool treks just for putting it up ( alot of guys go with the hopes of getting a gf too..imagine not get laid but get a gf) . .but jesus fucking christ isn’t that what it looks like?

I remember reading something which said that the chemical release you get in the brain when you tell people about your goals/plans is the same as the one when you actually attain them. And I pretty much believe that’s what fucks politicians up when they’re out there making the promises, then later the chemical release is over and so are the elections so fuck you citizen. 

Oh and this dude totally did not give up drinking I can assure you that. In fact let me take this opportunity to tell you a trick—tell fucking no one about your goals or in fact tell me people the opposite maybe. Bottle up all your dreams and ambitions and plans inside and just fucking don’t talk about it, maybe you could blog about it (i’m not sure about that) but tell no one in your fucking life about them. This way when they talk about their goals the memory of yours will stir but hey you can’t fucking tell them about it and this will remind you how you are just sitting there wasting precious fucking time, it’ll fucking eat you inside and that’s good. And if you can’t do that, you can’t have your goals deep in you and work on them without talking about it then you might as well forget about the whole thing and go watch roadies or IPL.

Greatness by proxy

Enterprises use proxy servers to provide safe and better internet use to its employees. So when you want to get to google, your connection goes to the proxy server, the proxy terminates it and starts its own connection to google and bridges both the connections thus having full control over the traffic in motion.

But let’s say your destination is a little more complex than google. It takes toil, sweat and tears to get there. It takes sacrificing your sleep, social life, your favorite food and everything else you’d rather do and even then you might not get there.

Your destination is greatness.

Well now a lot of people have now found an expressway to get there, they just count themselves in with those who are close.

Supporting your country’s cricket team is all good but my bs detectors are going off when I see how far people have taken that and I’m not sure if it’s just fandom anymore. It’s definitely not patriotism either, a patriot would find a lot more important things to focus his energies on.

My best guess is it’s just a mix of fitting in with the crowd and be excited about what everyone is excited about and of course the yearning to be a part of something big, that same feeling which brought so many to the Anna Hazare anti-corruption rallies.

But since nobody likes to think of themselves as just a two cent attention whore and everybody likes to tell think of themselves as people who don’t care about fitting in and pay lip service to individuality, the real intentions are masked by the culture as fandom and patriotism.

“The Alluring Snap”

What’s with guys thinking that every time a chick posts her pic online, a contest has started and one with the best phrase will be the first one who she opens her legs for. This isn’t Who wants to be a millionaire phone lines dammit.

Scroll up and read the last comment again — “alluring snap”. Seriously when did you say something like that to a chick? That’s like breaking into

“Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?

Thou art more lovely and more temperate:

Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,

And summer's lease hath all too short a date:

Every time you visit the mall, (I know most guys never say anything to a girl in a mall, that’s a different topic).

What gets me tickled is again the process of how he got to that comment, he scanned all the previous comments and saw that “looking good”, “fabulous”, “cute” and other variants thereof were taken, which forced him to push his english language skills to the limit, something he has not done since the last essay he wrote for the english paper not to mention a lot of people by heart their essays in India, I digress. Now as he was doing this, it then slowly became both an ego problem about his english skills “ofcrse i knw gud eng” he thought, “btr than all dese suckrs trying 2 get luky”. And a race to be the chosen one was always on his mind anyway “i’ll blw her mind here nw...thn wil say hi ltr in d chat. .mst buy kondums”.

And the rest as I say is misery.

Fire Your Parents

You think your parents did a good job with you right? Raising you, sending you to school, teaching you values etc. I've got some sad news, they fucked up big time. And that's nothing to get very up set about. Now that you know it, you can work to fix the damage done. Now this will be easy or hard, that totally depends on two factors:

- Your age.
- Your commitment to fixing it.

even morpheus apologized for freeing an adult mind from the matrix:

Morpheus: No. But if you could, would you really want to? I feel I owe you an apology. We have a rule. We never free a mind once it's reached a certain age. It's dangerous, the mind has trouble letting go. I've seen it before and I'm sorry.

We should first take a look at what we're fixing right. If they have given you the gift of religion — i would say that's probably the biggest fuck up but there are so many more, i really have to plan to put them here in a well framed sentence. The thing is being a parent is not fucking easy and the worst part is society celebrates when two people go out and have a kid. Society has decided that marriage and parenthood should be celebrated by default because they're "so hard" and "demand so much". One would expect that society would have expected more and demanded more from people who would choose to venture into things which we think are hard, but clearly that's not the case with parenthood. Instead, society shames men(no not women, not anymore, they're empowered which is a different story) for not playing according to the script.

It's exactly the same with voting. Come election and celebs and the media tell you go out and vote what they don't tell you is to read economics, public policy and understand the philosophy behind the idea of government and society, no — they just say go out and vote. And we know how that ends.

You were not even wanted

We're all told how happy everyone was when we entered the world, but that has comes with conditions. You see most people are just going through with society's plan for stages a "grown up" is expected to go through, and while they do felt the happiness for becoming parents, it was not in the sense how this man writes about having children. For most it was just time they made some kids and time to be happy for having made them.

No financial planning

I am in Mumbai, India. It's both the financial and slum capital of India, not to say there are not poorer people elsewhere in this country. We have 1.2 billion people as of now in the country and a good 60% is poor and a good 40% would be counted as desperately poor by western standards. Hell when applying western standards I think our middle class is still their poor class.

Our liberal socialist policies, our first PM Nehru all are definately to be blamed for this, but when you look for simpler reasons, we are here because of the social convention of getting married and popping out kids no matter how poor you are. And in the end the kids end up even poorer and illiterate who repeat the cycle.

All cultures have the social convention that people MUST and MUST get married but in India it's just a different ball game altogether and hence we have this mess.

And this is most likely true for your parents and mine. You see, the thing is we were never meant to go Harvard and do anything big(not to say you can't do it big without your parents but i'm trying to highlight the social convention side of it). We were only meant to go to some local school, get a basic job, get married, have kids and slog it just like our parents did, that's "how life is right?"

Feeding you their dogma

Just like the mother eagle vomits food in to it's young one's mouth, your parents off loaded all their misconceptions, inconsistencies, fallacies on to you for a long time now(depending on your age). Now that I'm 25, it really depresses me at times how I never had someone who could have solved even 10% of my doubts and answer my questions as a child. Right from "why are roads so bad in mumbai?" to "which religion is true?" everything damn question got a BS answer from them and point to be noted "i don't know" was not one of them.
The ego investment a person makes once a certain age into one's thinking and knowledge just never lets them say "i don't know". To quote from how to win friends and influence people

So, if you are inclined to tell people they are
wrong, please read the following paragraph every morning before
breakfast. It is from James Harvey Robinson's enlightening book The
Mind in the Making. 

We sometimes find ourselves changing our minds without any
resistance or heavy emotion, but if we are told we are wrong, we
resent the imputation and harden our hearts. We are incredibly
heedless in the formation of our beliefs, but find ourselves filled with
an illicit passion for them when anyone proposes to rob us of their
companionship. It is obviously not the ideas themselves that are dear
to us, but our self-esteem which is threatened. ... The little word
"my" is the most important one in human affairs, and properly to
reckon with it is the beginning of wisdom. It has the same force
whether it is "my" dinner, "my" dog, and "my" house, or "my" father,
"my" country, and "my" God. We not only resent the imputation that
our watch is wrong, or our car shabby, but that our conception of
the canals of Mars, of the pronunciation of "Epictetus," of the
medicinal value of salicin, or of the date of Sargon I is subject to
revision. We like to continue to believe what we have been
accustomed to accept as true, and the resentment aroused when
doubt is cast upon any of our assumptions leads us to seek every
manner of excuse for clinging to it. The result is that most of our so called
reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believing
as we already do.

That gives us an idea how and why most people (and hence most parents) will definitely vomit all their dogmas and inconsistencies in thought on to their kids, because that's all that they know in the first place.

Where to go from here?

The point of this post is not that we start hating our parents. This post is here so that you understand how your wrong ideas about the world entered your head in the first place. Of course schools, the government, church and pop culture and now feminism and other endless sources are responsible due to which people don't develop their rational thinking prowess but the house is where it starts.

The point is to understand that in this world only an inquisitive mind which values knowledge will get any of it and how much more there is for you to learn and unlearn.

The point is to understand that your parents are simple the victims of the social conventions set before them and probably did the best they did, and that you don't make the same mistakes if you choose to ever be responsible for a human's life in as deep way a way as parenting is.

And in the end just love your parents, don't live your life according to them, you don't have get along with them just — love them. 

Psychological clean up

I got the idea for this post while cleaning my two small cupboards yesterday. This is how it looked.

I'm sure you have done this at some point and been shocked and surprised by how much useless stuff lying in there untouched, things which you had forgotten even existed, some so outdated and good for nothing (I found CDs in there - ancient stuff right?) all taking up space in there while you've been worrying about having less space to put your currently important stuff.

Analogus to cleaning a cupboard another such important spae which needs cleaning and sorting is our psyche. Notice how even the mention of that term brings in images of some mystic, supernatural realm to the mind, like those of a "psychic" who can help you talk to your dead son from another mystic super land all thanks to thousands of years of religon and mystic theories which have put the psyche outside the realm of reality into some untouchable mystic supernatural world.

For most a thought such as cleaning psyche is perplexing, clean it of what one might ask, the answer is throw out retrograde ideas, beliefs, re-evaluate one's values and experiences and the conclusions which one has internalized because of those. The human subconscious works like a sponge, it's always soaking in and doing that from a very young age. Imagine all that is thrown at it from media, culture, religions, feminism, educational institutes, adults, friends. For the first 15-17 years of life one hardly discovers any ideas or arrives at any real conclusions on one's own and merely accepts what is being thrown at him, which is then integrated into the subconscious and decays into a deadly cocktail.

It's true that most people live with this muck in their subconscious throughout their lives, it's not like one has to think like Aristotle to have a job, a spouse and make a decent living on earth. But rest assured the stink from that decaying cocktail of contradictions, faith based claims eventually reaches the consciousness giving rise to twisted ideas:

• The businessman or anybody who is guilty of being rich and wealthy or just well off in a third world country.
• The belief that Ambani ought to fix the Mumbai's railway platforms rather than have a lavish house for himself.
• The christian(or any) who feels guilty and full of shame for so much as thinking of sex (probably asks the same god to take them away who created everything!)
• Voting and whole heartedly promoting the very ideologies and leaders responsible for the third world mess that the country is.
• The notion that philosophy is only big talk which belongs to the academia, drug addicts and every other stereotype(stereotypes exist for a reason but that's for another post). 

The last point is something to extend more on, it probably is the solution to the rest. Always notice how most people just dismiss philosophy as something only long haired drug addicts discuss after their usual kick. And observe the same people gladly follow some religion without even questioning the validity. The fact that religions themselves just are the very first philosophies mankind came up with is totally lost on them, and the fact that religions prohibit them from considering any other philosophical system is the reason why they've come to dismiss philosophy in general except the one in which they were born and raised into which they take it as the divine plan.We'll just read what Ayn Rand says about needing a philosophy:

You might claim — as most people do — that you have never been influenced by philosophy. I will ask you to check that claim. Have you ever thought or said the following? "Don't be so sure — nobody can be certain of anything." You got that notion from David Hume (and many, many others), even though you might never have heard of him. Or: "This may be good in theory, but it doesn't work in practice." You got that from Plato. Or: "That was a rotten thing to do, but it's only human, nobody is perfect in this world." You got that from Augustine. Or: "It may be true for you, but it's not true for me." You got it from William James. Or: "I couldn't help it! Nobody can help anything he does." You got it from Hegel. Or: "I can't prove it, but I feel that it's true." You got it from Kant. Or: "It's logical, but logic has nothing to do with reality." You got it from Kant. Or: "It's evil, because it's selfish." You got it from Kant. Have you heard the modern activists say: "Act first, think afterward"? They got it from John Dewey.

So there you have used and been influenced by philosophy throughtout your life, the problem?—it was all accidental. Which goes back to the previous point about how for the first many years of life we just accept whatever comes our way from whatever source and hence the urgency of a psychological clean up.

Christian Tricks Or Tricked Christians?

This started with the Modi vs Rahul debate (people are still having those!) on a guy's wall who wrote the following status update: 

Like always it took the turn to the communal vs secular land and someone said the following:

Now the comment in the above screenshot is actually true, there's a sect of christianity by the name jehovah's witnesses out on the streets of Mumbai armed with the-only-book-they've-read (bible!) to stop you and tell you about the world coming to an end, how you can be prepared for the same if you follow their favourite-and-the-only-book-they've-ever-read which has all the answers. These morons are also known to reject blood transfusions because god says so. But all that aside.

Since these people stop almost anybody right busy roads they mostly come across Hindus (putting marathis, punjabis all under one umbrella) because of course that's the majority in Mumbai. And it's natural that if you are a believer in a certain faith you would get upset on some random guy shoving his book in your face and telling you that's the real thing and not the one you've been into (now the fact that all are equally and absolutely wrong is for a different post). So kapadia getting upset and making the above comment was totally legit. 

What's interesting are the christian responses to it. Take a look:

It has always been a disturbing fact that there young people on this planet with 24/7 internet connection, who can read english, are decently smart people mostly graduate level educated and still actually fucking believe in a GOD! I mean all this information literally at your fingers and you still get up on sundays (or as per your day) to pray. Fine. 

Institutionalized religions especially monotheistic ones have some "chosen ones" (priests and nuns!) some among them running massive conversion campaigns in third world countries like India. While its bad enough that people believe in a god, it's an absolute fucking disaster that they can't even call on the BS that is being fed to them by these "chosen ones". 

Any person of average intelligence must agree that stopping people on the road and promoting your religion (while simultaneously degrading theirs) with the sole intent of getting them to convert to it is beyond ridiculous.

I expected at least one christian to come along in the comment thread and say: "Yes that's wrong, tell them to fuck off!" but you have the picture above. So are these young people so brainwashed? Instead of staying on the topic and coming up with one rational thought and making a point or even just saying they don't want to talk about it and moving on they go on with "Jesus will bless and forgive you" and "you'll know one day" the latter one is an outright threat, which translates to: The devil's going to peel off your skin in hell.

Here's how they would play, given a harder set of questions:

Q:The bible says the world is 6000 years old (right after the wheel was invented..!) that's absolute rubbish you know right?
Ans: you know not what you say, jesus will bless and forgive you!!

Q:Jesus was probably a normal man with some really good thoughts and ideas and later the miracles got added to his life story and the whole myth came in to being, like the books on Shiva have come out—The immortals of mehua. The theory is "" what do you think about that?
Ans: yes please say what you want, jesus will bless and forgive you!!

Q:How can they claim the bible to be true? No body has any proof anyway, miracles? seriously?!
Ans: you don't get it now, one day you will (in hell? wow so forgiving of you!).

Makes me wonder if these are just christian tricks to avoid arguments (because they have none) or tricked christians so brainwashed with dogma that there's no point of return. And sadly and unfortunately it seems the latter.